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Ki An
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Posted - 2008.08.06 10:36:00 -
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Originally by: Gul Rashen Suicideganking in High Sec was too easy, there was no risk and the reward was too high. This will be balanced now and thats all. No Hello Kitty. The PVP in EVE, Low Sec, 0.0, War Decs..will be the same after the changes.
And when they nerf NPC corps, your little safe haven will be full of PvP too 
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Ki An
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Posted - 2008.08.06 10:39:00 -
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Originally by: copasetic sideways
look at my shocked little face!
pvp is where it's at, this i know - i just don't understand the mentality of the forum whining arschtards who insist that anyone they choose should be instantly accessible... it's nothing to get stressed about... move on, find anohter victim...
Post with your main and I'll show you accessible.
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Ki An
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Posted - 2008.08.06 10:45:00 -
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Originally by: Gul Rashen First, i live in Low Sec and am a PvP'ler I only run Missions to pay my Accounts with ISK.
That Missions are too easy is different Problem. But its in my interest that many ppl play EVE and its ok for me that they play it in a different way than i do. For the Missionrunners pimping their Ships is one of their goals in EVE. And why not? I like Ganking and i like PVP, but i don't like ganking without any risk and possibility for the victim to protct himself.
Saying that gank victims have no possibility of protecting themselves makes it painfully obvious you don't PvP, so stop lying about that.
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Ki An
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Posted - 2008.08.06 10:47:00 -
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Edited by: Ki An on 06/08/2008 10:47:06
Originally by: copasetic sideways
shhhh little children, the adults are talking
Post with your main, 08-boy.
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Ki An
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Posted - 2008.08.06 10:54:00 -
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Originally by: FDUSPYZOR
You have no idea that NPC corps will be nerfed. Unless you have some proof that nobody else is aware of.
Just a healthy dose of common sense. My faith in CCP abilities aren't all gone yet. They're just throwing a few bones to the bears to keep them occupied, and then the crank down comes.
Originally by: FDUSPYZOR
It's cleart that CCP want a safer Eve.
No.
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Ki An
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Posted - 2008.08.06 10:57:00 -
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Originally by: Gul Rashen
I talk about Suicideganking Missionrunners. What possibilities have they? Fly with cheap Fitting or stay on Station? Lol.
Again you demonstrate your lack of knowledge. It is this exact lack of knowledge that has led us to this situation. People are too ****ing stupid to examine the options they have.
I often haul through high sec. Do you know how many times I've been suicide ganked? Zero. Out of all the people I know (all of them fairly level headed, intelligent individuals), do you know how many of them have been suicide ganked? Zero. The reason is that we use the options available to us.
Originally by: Gul Rashen
And beware of saying that ppl are lying you don't know. Thats not nice and kiddielike.
Stop lying and I'll stop telling you to stop lying.
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Ki An
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Posted - 2008.08.06 11:12:00 -
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Originally by: Gul Rashen Read the post. I was not talking about Haulers and come visite me in Oulley for a cup of Tea.
And you're still dumb. Mission runners have the option to not make themselves into targets. By fitting T2 instead of faction and officer for example. If you fit expensive, you increase your risk. That's how it is now.
After the nerf, mission runners will be completely safe. The amount of BS it takes to take out a CNR before CONCORD shows up is going to make it improfitable. Hence, this is a HUGE boost to NPC corp high sec mission runners. Just like they needed another boost.
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Ki An
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Posted - 2008.08.06 11:13:00 -
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Originally by: Gul Rashen
OK, i didn't knew that. Some of my Informations only come through the Forums and Friends. And yes, i've never Ganked Missionrunners. It's not my Style. I like roaming Gangs more, more thrill.
What did I tell you about lying?
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Ki An
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Posted - 2008.08.06 11:18:00 -
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Edited by: Ki An on 06/08/2008 11:18:52
Originally by: Gul Rashen I was uninformed but not lying. Stop your Offenses. If you wanna figths then fight IG.
You where lying about PvPing again. You don't PvP. It's obvious.
I'll take you up on your offer though. Fit faction and meet me in Tash Murkon region.
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Ki An
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Posted - 2008.08.06 11:34:00 -
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Originally by: copasetic sideways all the gloaters in this thread need to shut the hell up, else your low sec will be liberated and ki an will probably stick his little underwear-sniffing face in too....
sorry if this sounds like an episode of judging amy... oh wait, this *is* an episode of judging amy
I'm the childish one.
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Ki An
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Posted - 2008.08.06 11:38:00 -
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Originally by: Hungo
Originally by: Gaia Thorn So its finally happend the carebears have taken over eve.
Dev Blog
Noty everyone likes to fly around killing other pklayers u silly little fool, we deserve righst to play as we see fiot, whetehr u agree or not
Stop trolling. This is a serious discussion.
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Ki An
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Posted - 2008.08.06 13:11:00 -
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Originally by: Neesa Corrinne I highly encourage you to try out a few other MMO's before actually quitting EVE. I recently left EVE to try PotBS (crap), Tabula Rasa (crap) and Age of Conan (mega crap), and I have to say that even with a few glaring faults, EVE is so much better than the alternatives.
This is true, and that's why CCP figures they can get away with this kind of crap. The only ones who can believably threaten to quit the game are the WoW-crowd.
CCP, stop taking us for ****ing granted!
*emo*
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Ki An
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Posted - 2008.08.06 15:12:00 -
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Don't argue with Matrix Skye. He's a ******.
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Ki An
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Posted - 2008.08.06 15:49:00 -
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Originally by: Matrix Skye
and what would you call someone that thinks his distorded views are inline with ccp's but then calls ccp ******s and idiots when shit dont go his way?  
I don't know. Free-thinker?
I'd still call you a ****** though.
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Ki An
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Posted - 2008.08.06 16:35:00 -
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Originally by: Garreck Get a grip, folks. This change will not stop suicide ganking for profit (piracy, a totally acceptable trade in Eve). This change will only stop suicide ganking just for giggles (arguably griefing, and CCP seem to have landed on that side of the fence).
If folks want to run level 4 missions all day in high-sec in an npc corp to minimize risk to the extreme...then they have their reward in full already, because that's a pretty pointless Eve existence. Preying on those kinds of people just to do it was also a fairly pointless Eve existence.
Fit a scanner, find the haulers with the phat l00tz, suicide your ship(s), write off the losses as "cost of operating," and roll in the net profit. Pretty simple, really.
To get a bit serious for a while, I don't think most of us are actually whining about the changes themselves. What we - or at least I - are upset about is that the general focus of the game is being changed from a hard core dog-eat-dog environment where the devs don't give handouts and where players make their own justice and get to live with the consequences of their actions, to a casual-friendly mainstream online experience. I joined up to play the first game. If I wanted to play the second game I would have joined WoW, because that game does it much better.
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Ki An
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Posted - 2008.08.06 16:47:00 -
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Originally by: Garreck
I don't buy the "ganking folks in high-sec makes me/the game tough." The folks that have the most to lose from high sec ganking are still 100% vulnerable. Popping worthless afk haulers for laughs was neither particularly profitable for the ganker nor particularly costly for the dumbass afk-er (nor did it require any skill at all)...so I'm not sure where the hard-core is/was. The hard-core element...the potential loss (or more accurately "transfer" ) of billions for being overly lazy...still exists.
So what's the issue?
Please read my post again. I am worried about the direction the game is taking. The last couple of patches have all been pointing to an increase in security in high sec, and a dumbing down of PvP. An increase in security in high sec, in turn, leads to less incentive to ever leave. In my view, CCP are nerfing the wrong end of the spectrum.
As I like conspiracy theories, here's one I think might actually be true. CCP are working on their WoD MMO. When it goes gold, they don't want to be stuck with EvE. They are now aiming at making maximum amount of profits until the game is pulled. This means getting subscribers from the WoW-crowd, which in turn means dumbing the game down and limiting PvP.
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